Comments on: Dr. James Hansen Retires From 46-Year Career At NASA'a Goddard Institute Of Space Studies https://planetsave.com/articles/james-e-hansen-retires-from-nasa-46-year-career-this-week-continuing-his-work-as-the-most-educated-leader-of/ Science, Animals, Planet Earth, & More Fri, 31 May 2013 17:34:00 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.6.2 By: TerryWelander https://planetsave.com/articles/james-e-hansen-retires-from-nasa-46-year-career-this-week-continuing-his-work-as-the-most-educated-leader-of/#comment-17111 Fri, 31 May 2013 17:34:00 +0000 http://planetsave.com/?p=35507#comment-17111 In reply to TerryWelander.

We have never met. So name calling armchair skeptics and deniers is probably libel. Why would you want to go around libeling anyone?
It could get you into serious trouble.

I will say the many accomplishments of Dr. Hansen are extraordinary.

No one has a perfect record. Dr. Hansen is no exception. Nitrogen and Oxygen are 98% of the atmosphere and the overwhelming and primary heat transfer and temperature setting gases in the atmosphere.

Dr. Hansens’s fixation on carbon dioxide at 400 parts per million in the atmosphere is irrelevant in any and all atmospheric heat transfer and temperatures based on my 65th edition of the Handbook of Physics and Chemistry.

Keep it real, whatever you do. Dr. Hansen has completely missed reality on heat transfer and temperature in the atmosphere.

Based on his many accomplishments, I am certain no one is faulting him for it. At least
not yet if real corrections are not made.

Terry D. Welander
email: tdwelander@gmail.com

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By: TerryWelander https://planetsave.com/articles/james-e-hansen-retires-from-nasa-46-year-career-this-week-continuing-his-work-as-the-most-educated-leader-of/#comment-19889 Fri, 31 May 2013 17:34:00 +0000 http://planetsave.com/?p=35507#comment-19889 In reply to TerryWelander.

We have never met. So name calling armchair skeptics and deniers is probably libel. Why would you want to go around libeling anyone?
It could get you into serious trouble.

I will say the many accomplishments of Dr. Hansen are extraordinary.

No one has a perfect record. Dr. Hansen is no exception. Nitrogen and Oxygen are 98% of the atmosphere and the overwhelming and primary heat transfer and temperature setting gases in the atmosphere.

Dr. Hansens’s fixation on carbon dioxide at 400 parts per million in the atmosphere is irrelevant in any and all atmospheric heat transfer and temperatures based on my 65th edition of the Handbook of Physics and Chemistry.

Keep it real, whatever you do. Dr. Hansen has completely missed reality on heat transfer and temperature in the atmosphere.

Based on his many accomplishments, I am certain no one is faulting him for it. At least
not yet if real corrections are not made.

Terry D. Welander
email: tdwelander@gmail.com

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By: TerryWelander https://planetsave.com/articles/james-e-hansen-retires-from-nasa-46-year-career-this-week-continuing-his-work-as-the-most-educated-leader-of/#comment-17109 Thu, 30 May 2013 14:35:00 +0000 http://planetsave.com/?p=35507#comment-17109 In reply to Zachary Shahan.

The papers that matter on the atmosphere are the papers on carbon. These four in particular seem to be representative and point out Dr. Hansen has never addressed the overall heat transfer on Earth.

Specifically, the atmosphere is 78% Nitrogen, 20% Oxygen, slightly less than 2% water vapor, with the balance being all the other miscellaneous including carbon dioxide at 400 parts per million.

Only the 78% Nitrogen is operative with the 20% Oxygen in heat transfer to and from the planet setting the global temperature and changes.

Carbon dioxide and all other gases other than Nitrogen and Oxygen are too small to matter in atmospheric heat transfer and atmospheric temperature.

Common sense and reality matter more than anything.

And no one, especially his peers appear to have challenged Dr. Hansen on his unwritten outrageous assumptions ignoring the 98% of the atmosphere of Nitrogen and Oxygen as the over riding and primary heat transfer mediums that set global temperature and global temperature change.

I pass this on to you as a heads up and an eye opener.

No doubt there will be more to come on real world considerations instead of irrelevant microscopic examinations of parts per million atmospheric carbon and carbon gases.

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By: TerryWelander https://planetsave.com/articles/james-e-hansen-retires-from-nasa-46-year-career-this-week-continuing-his-work-as-the-most-educated-leader-of/#comment-19881 Thu, 30 May 2013 14:35:00 +0000 http://planetsave.com/?p=35507#comment-19881 In reply to Zachary Shahan.

The papers that matter on the atmosphere are the papers on carbon. These four in particular seem to be representative and point out Dr. Hansen has never addressed the overall heat transfer on Earth.

Specifically, the atmosphere is 78% Nitrogen, 20% Oxygen, slightly less than 2% water vapor, with the balance being all the other miscellaneous including carbon dioxide at 400 parts per million.

Only the 78% Nitrogen is operative with the 20% Oxygen in heat transfer to and from the planet setting the global temperature and changes.

Carbon dioxide and all other gases other than Nitrogen and Oxygen are too small to matter in atmospheric heat transfer and atmospheric temperature.

Common sense and reality matter more than anything.

And no one, especially his peers appear to have challenged Dr. Hansen on his unwritten outrageous assumptions ignoring the 98% of the atmosphere of Nitrogen and Oxygen as the over riding and primary heat transfer mediums that set global temperature and global temperature change.

I pass this on to you as a heads up and an eye opener.

No doubt there will be more to come on real world considerations instead of irrelevant microscopic examinations of parts per million atmospheric carbon and carbon gases.

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By: Zachary Shahan https://planetsave.com/articles/james-e-hansen-retires-from-nasa-46-year-career-this-week-continuing-his-work-as-the-most-educated-leader-of/#comment-17108 Wed, 29 May 2013 23:57:00 +0000 http://planetsave.com/?p=35507#comment-17108 In reply to TerryWelander.

4 papers? The man has published dozens or hundreds of papers over decades of service.

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By: Zachary Shahan https://planetsave.com/articles/james-e-hansen-retires-from-nasa-46-year-career-this-week-continuing-his-work-as-the-most-educated-leader-of/#comment-19879 Wed, 29 May 2013 23:57:00 +0000 http://planetsave.com/?p=35507#comment-19879 In reply to TerryWelander.

4 papers? The man has published dozens or hundreds of papers over decades of service.

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By: TerryWelander https://planetsave.com/articles/james-e-hansen-retires-from-nasa-46-year-career-this-week-continuing-his-work-as-the-most-educated-leader-of/#comment-17107 Tue, 28 May 2013 23:17:00 +0000 http://planetsave.com/?p=35507#comment-17107 I have reviewed 4 of Dr. James Hansens documents on black carbon, two in 2002, one in 2003, and one in 2004; listed in Dr. Hansen’s Wikipedia bibliography. All focus on the microscopic interactions of black carbon with other molecules without addressing what is actually going on in the atmosphere overall by heat transfer and the resulting temperature changes.

Specifically, with convection and winds being continuous on planet earth, microscopic interactions have almost no relevance on the heat input from the sun, volcanic emissions, and underwater volcanic rift emissions, the three principal sources of heat or lack, and temperature increases or decreases.

Or, the over all heat transfer on earth is based on the amount of sunlight reaching earth’s surface, additions from earth’s core, and release of heat to outer space from earth’s open atmosphere.

None of Dr. Hansen’s documents address the fundamentals of global heat transfer by convection and the winds; the over riding considerations whether the atmosphere is heating or cooling.

Anyone who can get Dr. Hansen to address these real and over riding atmospheric considerations would be a priceless addition to reality.

The total volcanic activity on the planet is 99% of the pollution problem.

All of humanities emissions are less than 1% of earth’s pollution.

Black carbon in the atmosphere is somewhere between 9 and 12 orders of magnitude less than the total volcanic emissions on earth.

No one in the history of humanity has printed such irrelevant truth
on black carbon effects in and on the atmosphere compared to sunlight, volcanic emissions and underwater volcanic rift emissions.

Worse, with winds and convection, no individual microscopic atmospheric event such as black carbon has any chance of altering or changing the global heat loss rate of earth to outer space; what matters in earth heat changes and thus temperature changes.

It is way too long over due for responsible and rational people to stand up to such irrelevancies as black carbon in the atmosphere; compared to the hugely controlling and over riding global heat transfers to space and what actually causes temperature changes on earth.

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By: TerryWelander https://planetsave.com/articles/james-e-hansen-retires-from-nasa-46-year-career-this-week-continuing-his-work-as-the-most-educated-leader-of/#comment-19876 Tue, 28 May 2013 23:17:00 +0000 http://planetsave.com/?p=35507#comment-19876 I have reviewed 4 of Dr. James Hansens documents on black carbon, two in 2002, one in 2003, and one in 2004; listed in Dr. Hansen’s Wikipedia bibliography. All focus on the microscopic interactions of black carbon with other molecules without addressing what is actually going on in the atmosphere overall by heat transfer and the resulting temperature changes.

Specifically, with convection and winds being continuous on planet earth, microscopic interactions have almost no relevance on the heat input from the sun, volcanic emissions, and underwater volcanic rift emissions, the three principal sources of heat or lack, and temperature increases or decreases.

Or, the over all heat transfer on earth is based on the amount of sunlight reaching earth’s surface, additions from earth’s core, and release of heat to outer space from earth’s open atmosphere.

None of Dr. Hansen’s documents address the fundamentals of global heat transfer by convection and the winds; the over riding considerations whether the atmosphere is heating or cooling.

Anyone who can get Dr. Hansen to address these real and over riding atmospheric considerations would be a priceless addition to reality.

The total volcanic activity on the planet is 99% of the pollution problem.

All of humanities emissions are less than 1% of earth’s pollution.

Black carbon in the atmosphere is somewhere between 9 and 12 orders of magnitude less than the total volcanic emissions on earth.

No one in the history of humanity has printed such irrelevant truth
on black carbon effects in and on the atmosphere compared to sunlight, volcanic emissions and underwater volcanic rift emissions.

Worse, with winds and convection, no individual microscopic atmospheric event such as black carbon has any chance of altering or changing the global heat loss rate of earth to outer space; what matters in earth heat changes and thus temperature changes.

It is way too long over due for responsible and rational people to stand up to such irrelevancies as black carbon in the atmosphere; compared to the hugely controlling and over riding global heat transfers to space and what actually causes temperature changes on earth.

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